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: > On Tue, 6 Feb 1996, Faryde Lara Rodriguez wrote:
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: > > Attibabbaus in arabian
: > > Te amo in spanish
: > > Ti amo in italian

: >17/02/96- ani ohev otah' (boy to girl)
:            ani ohevet otha (girl to boy)




Je te ame  (I think!!)
in French

 wrote:
> 
> Because other nations did not give the same freedom to their minorities, the
> hungarians gave them. St. Istvan (St. Steven) wanted hungary to be a multicul
tural
> nation. Maybe there have been some dark periods in history, but most of the t
ime
> hungarians did not kick your ass the way you did with them.

Come on this is too much!
I don't know what St. Istvan wanted at the end of the 10th century
(and frankly I doubt about the "liberal views" of any 10th century
ruler), the way the Hungarian authorities trated the Romanians in
Transylvania for centuries is in no way an example of friendly conduct.
And if you are in any doubt, let me tell you that two of my grand-
grand-parents left Transylvania in 1907-1909 because of the "good"
treatment of the Hungarian authorities (notice that I'm not saying the
Hungarians). In both cases they left almost everything (they were not
exactly rich but they had a house, some land, a lot of sheep). One of
them was living in Covasna (in a area with Hungarian majority then and
now) the other in Fagaras (in and area with Romanian majority then
and now).

Trying to put history "work" for you doesn't realy help!

However, I do agree that what happened in the past (even if it is 
a recent past) should not damage the chances for the future and I
strongly agree that Transylvania's history is both Romanian and
Hungarian (I would add German also) and there is place for a better 
treatment of Hungarians by the Romanian authorities today. There is
also place for a better treatment of Romanians (by the Romanian
authorities) today!

Regards,
Mihnea.

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                 FIATAL MAGYAROK AMERIKAI EGYESULETE
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02/19/95 NEW BRUNSWICK CHAPTER -- held a chapter meeting on Sunday.
         Here are some highlights:
         - Kun-Szabo Csilla was elected to be Chapter President;
         - Varga Gyuszi was elected the National Committee Rep;
         - We approved the 1996 agenda and continued to work on the
           many upcoming New Brunswick events. The schedule of events
           can be found online at http://www.aayh.org/cal.html or 
           just follow the link from the AAYH homepage; (Varga Gyuszi)

Dear Karl,

it won't help much but I have a story for you. I got a free lift from a taxi 
driver on the highway in Hungary. Since he was a professional and I was 
somewhat interested we were talking about cars and safety on the roads. I 
asked him how one can manage a better car not to get stolen in Hungary. 
(better means better than a Lada) He said: It is easy. Either you have a good 
friend working in a gas station and you park your car there under a strong 
streetlight or you put a dangerous snake in it.

I hope it helps:)



--------------------------------------
Peter Szaszvari
http://iap11.ethz.ch/users/szp/szp.htm
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> Felado :  [United States]
> Temakor: Re: hard work ( 13 sor )
> Idopont: Tue Feb 13 02:28:02 EST 1996 HUNGARY #578
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> Felado :  [United Kingdom]
> > Content? I'm delighted they work harder on more productive things.
> And I think, that they always worked hard enough.

 [United States] wrote:
|Yes, and the Hungarian peasant harvesting with a scythe worked much harder
|than the US farmer sitting in the air-conditioned cab of his combine-
|harvester could ever imagine. But it is the amount of the grain harvested
|that determines the usefulness of the worker, not the amount of sweat. Why
|is the US farmer more productive?  Because he's sitting on a piece of
|machinery that represents a large capital investment. Like it or not,
|E1va, capital is a good thing, and societies that can't accumulate it are
|doomed to lose out to the ones that can.

And it is not just a matter of "accumulating" capital. There is not a
finite supply. Capital is also "created". Capital flows to where it can
grow. If the potential for growth is clearly seen, capital will follow as
surely as a fly to shit.
-- 
Wally Keeler					Poetry
Creative Intelligence Agency			is
Peoples Republic of Poetry			Poetency

Karl Bogos > wrote:
>I am travelling to Europe soon and one of my destinations is Hungary, but 
>I have been rudely told by car rental companies that they will NOT insure 
>their cars in Hungary. What has happened in Hungary that the insurance 
>people are so uptight about ? Is their another revolution
>looming <grin> ? Are cars being stolen more frequently then in other 
>countries ? Can anyone enlighten me on this issue? Or do I just bypass 
>this country and miss out on all it's wonders ?
>
>Karl
I drove my own car from Britain to Hungary last summer. My insurance company
did not bat an eyelid when I asked for insurance to cover it - for them, EU
and eastern European insurance policies are standard products.
Is it true that all major rental companies would not insure their cars for
Hungary? If so, maybe you should buy a cheap car and insure it personally.
Where will you be entering Europe?
I find it hard to believe that some company won't want to take advantage of
travellers to Hungary. Good luck, whatever happens.

------------------
Neil Dullaway		e-mail: 
Cranfield University	URL:	http://www.cranfield.ac.uk/public/ca/ac941558/
------------------

In article >,  says...
>
>Wanted Hungarian wines for export to Asia...............
I bought some very good white ones (Egri leanyka) last sommar. The owner of 
the celler i Birincsik Janos (Szepasszonyvolgy 32-es pince) home: 3300 Eger 
Garay u 12  Phon +36 320 411
He said he will bottle the wine himshelf, but he was not ready with building 
the his winary. You can find very proper wines of BB (Balatonboglar ...)
Good luck    Imre Keri

> Felado :  [Canada]
> Temakor: Re: Prostitution ( 16 sor )
> Idopont: Sat Feb 10 11:22:51 EST 1996 HUNGARY #575
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At 11:27 AM 2/9/96 -0500, Eva Balogh wrote:
>>Would this law legalize both female and male prostitutes?
>Are you kidding? You should have a sampling of what Hungarians think
>of homosexuality at the Forum. You will be surprised. Or perhaps not!

Joe Szalai ) [Canada] wrote:
|No, I wouldn't be surprised. A sampling of opinions expressed here and on
|other newsgroups indicate that many Hungarians are sexist, racist
|(especially toward gypsies), and homophobic.
|Are Hungarians ready to join the European Community?

Hungary is not unique in its racist attitudes towards the Gypsies. In
1991, I had a brief audience with Demszky Gabor in his mayoral office and
suggested that it might be a beneficial idea to determine how many Gypsies
live in Budapest and then to develop some programs to make them part of
the Budapest community. He expressed absolutely no interest in the Gypsies
and suggested that they could do things for themselves. It was interesting
that this man whom I had admired for his samizdat activities expressed a
them/us attitude, but this was mild compared to the many vicious comments
I received from many Hungarian about Gypsies.

I don't see what the problem is about joining the European Community since
racist attitudes against Gypsies prevail throughout Europe, from skinhead
murders in the Czech Republic to Gypsy village burnings in Romania by both
Romanians and Hungarians

The "fekete vonat" is the Hungarian equivalent of the South African Soweto
townshit trains that would bring the blacks into the white cities for
work, then return them back to their shacks.
-- 
Wally Keeler					Poetry
Creative Intelligence Agency			is
Peoples Republic of Poetry			Poetency

 (Peter Szaszvari) wrote:
>Dear Karl,
>
>it won't help much but I have a story for you. I got a free lift from a taxi 
>driver on the highway in Hungary. Since he was a professional and I was 
>somewhat interested we were talking about cars and safety on the roads. I 
>asked him how one can manage a better car not to get stolen in Hungary. 
>(better means better than a Lada) He said: It is easy. Either you have a good 
>friend working in a gas station and you park your car there under a strong 
>streetlight or you put a dangerous snake in it.
>
Or you drive a British (or Irish) car - RH drive cars are a bit too easy to
identify...

>--------------------------------------
>Peter Szaszvari

------------------
Neil Dullaway		e-mail: 
Cranfield University	URL:	http://www.cranfield.ac.uk/public/ca/ac941558/
------------------

pOpTongK > wrote:

>It depends on how formal you want to be.  If it is your lover than just:
> sarang he or tongshin sarang he.  If it formal than maybe ke-de-rul 
>sa-rang-hamnida.  Both things you wrote were fine though. 
>BTW in Tagalog it is Mahal gita

I think the spelling is splitly wrong.  Besides Mahal kita (notice,
it's k not g), I think one can also say Iniirog kita and Iniibig kita
in Tagalog.
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 (Liss nyc) wrote:
>
> Sagapo -- Greek
> 



(SK)- Seni Seviyorum. ---- Turkish

      Soner Kartel    

 (Liss nyc) wrote:
>
> Sagapo -- Greek
> 



(SK)- Seni Seviyorum. ---- Turkish

      Soner Kartel    

Hi,

Which mutation of the virus are You referring to? There is one mutation
that attacks the tongue, thus forcing the infected person to
pronunce "stewardess" as "steward-person", or "waitress" as "waiter-person",
or -- God forbid! -- dehumanize Jesus to have a neutral sex.

Fortunately, this mutation of the PC virus is not a well-known strain
in Hungary, but don't take my word for it, since I've been living in the
US for 3 years now and things may have changed. I think, people who
are infected on their tongue would generally be called "clowns" in
Hungary anyway, due to their hilariously funny pronunciation of some
common Hungarian words, some of which are neutral, anyway.

The more serious strain of the virus may be the one that You mentioned,
which attacks the brain-cells. When I first came to the US, I found
those people who were infected by this virus very funny. Then I
realized that it is a serious cultural problem, not just individual
cases, which made the problem appear very serious.

At the time I left for the US, I didn't even hear about PC in Hungary,
or met somebody who was infected. Hmm, Hungary may be the last safe
haven for us, healthy ones! :-))))

> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
LaLa (Imre Olajos, Jr.)    Magyar vagyok.    _/ean /\/\ichel _/arre and
WWW : http://homepage.interaccess.com/~lala       -=\/=- angelis fan    __o
Home:  (USA, Chicago suburbs -> GO BULLS!)        _-\<._
Work:  (Lucent Technologies, Bell Labs)           (_)/ (_)
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In article > Wally Keeler,
 writes:
>The "fekete vonat" is the Hungarian equivalent of the South African Soweto
>townshit trains that would bring the blacks into the white cities for
>work, then return them back to their shacks.

You are not right here, Wally. The name 'fekete vonat' comes
from a Hungarian 'Schlager' and not after the colour of the tra-
vellers.

Ajaj, fekete vonat
elvitted a páromat  / you took away my dear

By the way, I travelled on that train several times,
and it is true that plenty of Gipsies travel weekly
also on board but there are lot of Hungarian as
well.
You know, our east county, Szabolcs-Szatmár-Bereg
is one of  (if not) the poorest in Hungary. There is
no considerable industry, the soils are explicitly bad
on Hungarian scale, so the folks there have to find
jobs on other parts of Hungary, mostly in Budapest.
(As my mother, her sisters and brothers did that.)

Tamas

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