In article >,  
says...
>

>That immigrant kids are required to use French schools? It does not 
limit
>bilingual facility but increases it: mother language + French. And like
>all francophone kids they will watch US TV, and know more and better
>English anyway than we generally do in France, or in Hungary.
>
>>I think it says French cannot be in smaller letters? This leaves room
>for English when felt necessary, and helps the French not switch to
>English due to massive English presence in media etc - at least this
>is how Quebecker visitors usually explain it to us in France. It makes
>sense to me.
>
Hey, Olivier, why don't you come here and scream from the top of the 
Quebec Parliament, like your great "Fuhrer" De Gaulle did, "Vive le 
Quebec libre"?

Agnes

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Wally Keeler megint nem fe'r a bo"re'be: 

>Watch out Torski, scm has an official spellnazi in its midst
>named Georgy KoVacuous. You'll have a lot of esplaining to do.

No person by that name ever posted on scm. Wally is having nightmares again.
Only self appointed poets are required to have perfect spelling.
GK

George Kovacs ) writes:
> Wally Keeler megint nem fe'r a bo"re'be: 
> 
>>Watch out Torski, scm has an official spellnazi in its midst
>>named Georgy KoVacuous. You'll have a lot of esplaining to do.
> 
> No person by that name ever posted on scm. Wally is having nightmares again.
> Only self appointed poets are required to have perfect spelling.

Name the poets that are not self-appointed.

Can you send more info on your flat rate .... I'm in Canada, I don't know
if it would apply from here, too?

Thanks 

 wrote in article
>...
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| > was ridiculous. THis geneti theory of language, and claiming
| > that blacks have some genetic reason for not being able to
| > learn english is what I called ridiculous.
| > 
| > Istvan
| 
| Haliho, Istvan!
| 
| Yes, it is a ridiculous idea for both reasons. If you have ever heard
| blacks speak who live in Great Britain, you know that those who are
| native-born do not have West Indian or African accents (much as I enjoy
| those dialects - West Indian speech is actually very musical and very
| expressive). The native English speakers speak the Queen's English just
| as well as she does. I think it is an insult to black people to propose
| that they cannot learn standard English and it is disproven as well by
| many blacks in the States who *do* speak beautiful
standard English.

In fact this is the only account I read of this that
referred to the inability of blacks to learn English. The
subject has come up in multiple places, and this claim I've
only seen here. 

| Unfortunately, it is not only among blacks that facility in spoken and
| written English is deteriorating; that is true for younger people of all
| ethnic groups and I think a big part of it is the failure of the schools
| to actually demand that young people learn to speak and
write properly. 

Agreed... Note what my objection is to and for. I was
actually at a gathering (somewhere between a family
gaterhing and a party) with (educated) Jamaican people,
speaking with a Jamaican accent, and as   you did, I enjoyed
their pronounciation and dialect very much (and as Professor
Labov said what is a language but a dialect with an army
:)). In fact I just love Nat King Cole's accent.


Istvan

In article >,

| 
| This looks like just another attempt at dumming down America by the
| liberal establishment, using the lowest common denominator in their
| pursuit of an egalitarian society.
| 
| Joe

Uhh Yeah.. You hit the nail right on the head :)

Istvan

Egy nehany erdekes hely a WEB-en a TEXCELLENT oldalan.

http://lonestar.texas.net/~txcelent

In article >,  
says...
>
>In >  (aheringer) writes: 
>>
>>In article >, 
 says...
>>>
>>>I will be moving to Budapest nest year and would like any information
>on
>>>golf courses in Hungary.  I've heard that there are none in the area.
>
>>>Please tell me it isn't true!!!!!
>>>
>>>Please reply via E-Mail
>>>
>>>isubaby
>>
>>I am afraid it is.  I can't  be sure, of course, since I live in
>Canada, 
>>but I was in Budapest last year, and nobody told me about golf
>courses.  
>>You see, the Hungarians are not golfers, it is a British sport. 
>However, 
>>there are not so many Northamericans working there that they
>established 
>>one maybe.  Call the consulate and ask.
>>
>>Agnes
>>
>
>Actually, there are golf courses in Hungary, although not too many. 
>Perhaps your travel agent could help indentifying some.
>
>On a personal note, I recall visiting the golf course in the Budapest
>hills with my grandfather, who was one of its founding members.  It was
>on Szechenyi Hill, near to what is now the narrowgauge railroad
>station.
>
>Charlie Vamossy


Charlie, I remember that too!  I think the hotel was even called the golf 
hotel, wasn't it?  I just read Olivier's message about 2 golf clubs in 
Budapest.  I am genuinely surprised.  It shows I am not moving among the 
elite when I visit...

Agnes

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December 29, 1996

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Roma during the war is urged to contact ERRC at Nador utca 11, 1051
Budapest, Hungary (Tel: +36 1 3273118; Fax: +36 1 3273103).

The above is adapted from the Open Society News, Summer, 1996.
Auggie Zemo

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On 25 Dec 1996 01:28:40 GMT, 
(Cours 6412) wrote:

> Charles M. Vamossy ) wrote:
> : In >  (Alexander
> : N. Bossy) writes:

> : I do agree with you, Alexander, about the need to reconcile and resolve
> : our different views of our common history.  I just caution against
> : neglecting the present and the future, which is our to mold, regardless
> : of history.  Too many times, especially here on the internet, positions
> : become polarized, views become extreme, and those who have a more
> : tolerant view, become silent.
> 
> The solution to this problem would be to have a temporary mailing list
> dedicated to a Hu-Ro reconciliation experiment.
> 
> But are there any volunteers genuinely interested in such a reconciliation?
> From all the reactions so far it doesn't look that the two "virtual"
> communities are eager to tackle these issues.

Hi Christian:

I'm probably showing my Yankee optimism, but I don't interperate the
virtual reaction in same light as you do.  I think that there isn't
any pervassive fixation on the problems of Hungarian-Romanian
reconciliation because the underlying problems are clearly being
solved, and were being solved even while the Iliescu regime was trying
to play up ethnic anymosities by flirting with the pseudo-fascist
right.

The reason that these conflicts are being resolved is for the simple
reason that neither community will win through conflict.  Hungary has
been reforming her economy, and is starting to enjoy the fruits of the
past few years of labor.  A war would keep her from reaching Western
economic standards for another generation.  Romania hadn't engaged in
any economic reform while the neo-communist regime still ruled.  At
this point, her interests are in fast-forwarding her economic and
political reform so that she'll be invited to join NATO next year.
Conflict with Hungary not only will keep Romania from embarking on
those needed reforms, but even if it didn't, would guarantee 
that she won't be considered for NATO.  So, both communities,
understanding this reality, are more interested in focussing on the
important issues of economic (and in Romania, political) reform and
just don't see the dangers of inter-communal hostilities as realistic
enough to worry about.

However, I think that it is precissely now, when popular attention is
turned towards more important issues of economic betterment and
democratic institutionalization, that we should bring an end to a
millenium of conflict and emnity.  It can be done, as was proven in
the Franco-German case.

> Of course, we are all busy, now there are the Holidays....
> 
> Any way those interested please raise your hands ;-)

Sure.

> Merry Christmas !

Merry Christmas and Happy New Year
Alexander

aheringer ) writes:
> In article >,  
> says...
>>That immigrant kids are required to use French schools? It does not 
> limit
>>bilingual facility but increases it: mother language + French. And like
>>all francophone kids they will watch US TV, and know more and better
>>English anyway than we generally do in France, or in Hungary.
>>
>>>I think it says French cannot be in smaller letters? This leaves room
>>for English when felt necessary, and helps the French not switch to
>>English due to massive English presence in media etc - at least this
>>is how Quebecker visitors usually explain it to us in France. It makes
>>sense to me.
>>
> Hey, Olivier, why don't you come here and scream from the top of the 
> Quebec Parliament, like your great "Fuhrer" De Gaulle did, "Vive le 
> Quebec libre"?
> Agnes

Hey Agnes, Your shrillness is beginning to sound like a skreech. Or as our
great Pierre Trudeau said, "mange le merde" when confronted by a group of
persons with loud voices. The French in Quebec are acting to protect their
culture in the same manner as English Canadians take measures to protect
what they deem to be Canadian culture in the face of the USAmerican
beomoth to the south.

In article >,  
says...
>
>Good job!!!

May I ask what are you referring to?

Agnes

Steve Kiely ) wrote:
> Name one (1) country with a racist-free history:
> 
> 1.

Seychelles.

Hi. I am looking for any information on Domany Judit. She was a classmate
of my Mom Trudi Teller (Adler) in Budapest. They haven't seen each other
since the Holocaust. Any info will be greatly appreciated. PLease send
reply to . Thanks!

Susie

I will be moving to Budapest nest year and would like any information on
golf courses in Hungary.  I've heard that there are none in the area. 
Please tell me it isn't true!!!!!

Please reply via E-Mail

isubaby

Steve Kiely wrote:
> 
> Name one (1) country with a racist-free history:
> 
> 1.   N O N E    because each country is created to preserve                  
the integrity of a race.

                  Is that racist ? 


Jonah Andrianarivo