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+ - Mi kinek e'rdeke ? (mind) VÁLASZ  Feladó: (cikkei)

Mindenki okulasara egy tortenet. Nalunk es napjainkban jatszodik. Sajnos...

Bevezetoul: a ho"szivattyu'rol lesz szo, ez kedvenc vesszoparipam
	   (u.i. ebbol e'lunk, immar tiz e've).
Hogy ez mi, roviden: altalaban fu"te'sre hasznalatos gepezet, jellemzo ra' a
		  jelento"s, 50-75% energia-megtakaritas a hagyomanyos
		  tuzeleshez kepest... Svajcban pl. a haztartasok feleben
		  hasznaljak...
Elterjedt dolog ez a joleti tarsadalmakban. Mert biztos lehetsz benne,
ha egy gepezet 5 ev alatt behozza az arat, ott meg is veszik... Ott...
Nalunk fe'l e'v alatt kell megterulnie, hogy el lehessen adni...
Igazsag szerint ott is sok az 5 ev nemely haztartasoknak, intezmenyeknek,
ezert allami tamogatasi rendszer mukodik, hogy mindenki meg tudja venni.

Talan nalunk is lesz ilyen. Mar letezik egy un. energia-hitel, a Kornyezet-
vedelmi Miniszterium iteli oda. Azokat ta'mogatna'k vele, akik jelentos
energia-megtakaritast tudnak elerni valamely beruhazassal...

Tavaj a penz volt tul keves arra, hogy mi is megkapjuk.
Iden is kitalaltak valamit, nehogy jol erezzuk magunkat...

Ez a gepezet MINDEN letezo futesi moddal szemben igen jelentos 
energia-megtakaritast tud felmutatni, igy termeszetesen a tavfutessel
szemben is... 
Nos, azt talaltak ki, ha valaki nem jott volna ra: a tavfutes helyettesitesere
semmilyen beruhazas nem tamogathato.... es nem csak a cegunkrol van szo,
mert a gazfutes is joval olcsobb, mint a tavfutes...

Es megvilagitando, milyen hordereju ez a dolog: egy celiranyos, tiz eves
allami programmal megtakarithato lenne a jelenlegi magyar energia-
fogyasztas egyharmada...

Ha't ennyi.
Akit ez reszleteiben is erdekel, hivjon batran.
Hajdu Gyorgy, 326 0558
--
UEDV:	 _________
	 Gyurmo tol
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utoljara vagy 3 eve irtam barmit is kornyeszben, ugy hogy bocsassatok
meg ha remego billentyuzettel irok :-)

nos egy keresem lenne most is csak ("zpok.termeszetvedelem" rovat
olvasok ne figyeljenek, mert ott is megjelentettem keresemet)

szeretnem abbeli segitsegeteket kerni, hogy hol, milyen anyagok
erhetok el a kovetkezo temakban: 

1. okologiai halozatok, zold folyosok es "szigetek"
ebbol ami van az a miskolciak kiadvanyai (Barati Sandor: Elohelyek,
oekologiai folyosok, valamint a z OEkologiai halozatok Europaban c.
kiadvanyok. illetve szinten az o jovoltukbol megvan nehany angol
anyagbol szelektalt fenymasolat is.)

2. elohely rekonstrukciok, rehabilitacios munkak
(foleg ebbol, mert szinte semmi sincs...)

itt kifejezetten az Alfoldon levo termeszeti ertekek, azon belul is a
gyepek, lapok, mocsarak, szikes es nem szikes tavak, erdok
rekonstrukcoja erdekel most.

gyakorlatilag ajanlott irodalmat es azok elerhetoseget kernem,
valamint konkret anyagok kuldeset. ha tudtok konkret anyagot kuldeni,
azt megbeszeles utan (hogy feleslegesen senki ne dolgozzon)
elektronikusan es postan is szivesen varom. 

koszonom szepen, ha valaki idejet raszanva segit!

udv: 

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POVERTY IS REAL, AND IT IS NOT OK
>
>         Almost thirty years ago I returned from a long stay in India with my
> mind, body, and senses full of dust and color, peace and violence, holiness a
nd
> crassness, all the contradictions of a land so different from my own.
>
>         I thought I would remember always the faces of the villagers.  I was
> pained by the enormous gulf between the quality and quantity of their food an
d
> homes and possessions and the food and homes and possessions to which I
> returned.
>
>         But experiences, no matter how powerful, fade.  The messy,
> mind-boggling, raw REALITY of India receded into memories -- memories that ha
ve
> driven everything I have done since, but nevertheless dustless, colorless
> abstractions --until last week when I got an e-mail message from my friend
> Vicki Robin, just back from her first trip to India.
>
>         "I watched India flow by my bus window for hours," Vicki wrote.
> "Unrelenting poverty, sober poverty, millions of people living in poverty.  I
> saw the rock chippers, roving tribes that spend their days pounding boulders
> into gravel for roadbeds.  Women.  Men.  Toddlers.  All with hammers, poundin
g
> rock."
>
>         "Then there were the people lying on mattressless cots in houses the
> size of U.S. walk-in closets.  Street vendors fried up "fast food" lunches
> while their children washed the pots with river mud.  Shopkeepers occupied
> stalls about as big as a Pepsi display in a U.S. supermarket, selling bananas
> or pots or fabric, with only a day's supply of inventory."
>
>         As I read Vicki's words, the REALITY of India came back in a rush.  T
he
> smoky sunsets, the necklaces of strung marigolds for sale in the markets, the
> bony cows, the desperate or deadened eyes of hungry children.  Poverty isn't
> pictures on TV.  It isn't 30-year-old memories.  It is the lived experience o
f
> hundreds of millions of people today, tomorrow, every day.
>
>         Vicki went on: "What I came to understand was that many of these peop
le
> had no hope.  Not that they had not eaten that day.  Not that they had only
> rags to wear.  But that the fragile thread of hope had snapped -- the sense
> that through some effort they might take care of themselves and their childre
n
> and better their lot.
>
>         "A story: In the state of Gujarat the water table is collapsing,
> drained faster than it is recharged.  In Rupal, a village of maybe 50 homes, 
I
> visited women who had the grit to organize, save money, badger the bureaucrac
y
> and get a well and pump constructed so they didn't have to carry water three
> miles daily.
>
>         "They were beautiful, proud and fierce.  They showed me their well,
> next to a river that was 'strangely' dry this year.  They explained their nex
t
> project: getting pipes installed so every home would have running water
>
>         "In 20 years, I thought, these women, in spite of their determination
,
> will be out of water.  This town will be dead.  They don't know it.  They can
't
> do anything about it.  Choices made upstream -- dams, irrigation projects,
> demand from cities -- will wipe these people out.
>
>         "Another story: Peasants in a coastal village got the money and
> gumption to put in a sea wall to reclaim a salt marsh for farming.  They
> irrigated the land for a year to wash out the salt and then planted cotton an
d
> subsistence crops.  When the landlords realized that this small degree of
> self-sufficiency meant the peasants would no longer be available to work for 
a
> pittance, they burned those crops.  In one day the courage and work it had
> taken to carve out this small arc of security was crushed.
>
>         "Another story: Two beautiful young women pound coconut husks to
> extract fiber for rope.  They are so finely featured that with a small twist 
of
> fate they could be $1000-a-day New York models.  Instead, with no self pity a
nd
> without stopping their steady thwacking, they explain that they can do 3 pile
s
> of husks a day (worth $1.75) before their arms give out.
>
>         "Thousands of people living in black plastic villages in the dusty
> outskirts of cities.  People with one possession -- a razor, an iron, a wrenc
h,
> a bicycle rickshaw -- upon which their livelihood depends.  They aren't 'poor
> but happy' or 'poor but spiritual' or 'poor in things but rich in
> relationships.'  Those North American platitudes fell in big chunks out of my
> brain, never to be uttered again.
>
>         "It isn't OK that anyone has to live in grinding poverty.  Any
> six-year-old knows that.  It's even less OK that poverty is held in place by 
a
> web of circumstances that makes my life (and yours) very comfortable.
>
>         Vicki didn't even try to offer solutions.  "That's way too American a
> thought, especially in my infancy with this issue.  But my eyes have seen
> enough to know that it is right, just, and moral that we use the freedom and
> ease and education and opportunity and affluence that we enjoy here to speak
> and act on behalf of folks who have no voice and no hope.  We need to speak,
> not for our own comfort but so our species will mature into the lovely,
> gracious, compassionate collective we have it in us to be."
>
>         Speaking out with the passion of fresh experience is, as Vicki Robin
> admits, not a solution.  But it is out of such passion, not out of old romant
ic
> memories or flat TV pictures, that solutions will come.
>
>         Thanks so much, Vicki, for the reminder.
>
>         (Donella H. Meadows is an adjunct professor of environmental studies 
at
> Dartmouth College and director of the Sustainability Institute.)
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A GAIA Sajtoszemlebol

THE ECOLOGIST Vol. 29, No 5, August/September 1999, p. 289  Robin
Whitlock: The Trouble with Transmitter (Bajok az atadoallomasokkal) A
hordozhato tavbeszelot uzemelteto tarsasagok Angliaban egymassal
vetelkednek minel tobb antenna-torony telepitese erdekeben. Sokat
letesitettek varosokban, annak ellenere, bar egyre tobb bizonyitek van
arra, hogy az elektromagneses terek hosszu tavon veszelyeztetik 
egeszsegunket. A lakossag novekvo ellenallasaval szemben a vallalatok
arrol biztositanak, hogy a tornyaik biztonsagosak.

Glastonbury templomanak penzre van szuksege jotekonysag gyakorlasara
es az epulet felujitasara, ezert szerzodest kotott az Orange
tarsasaggal es a templom tornyan felallitottak az antennat. A varos
lakossaga jol ismert kornyezetvedo gondolkodasarol, most a templom
melletti iskolaba jaro gyerekeik egeszseget felti es gyulest hivtak
egybe ez ugyben - folyik a vita. Tobb vizsgalat az antennak
elektromagneses terenek a veszelyeirol tudosit. Peldaul egy sidney-i,
18 eve mukodo antenna kozeleben a gyerekkori leukemia gyakorisaga
2,74-szeres a tavolabb elokhoz kepest. Svedorszagban a Skrunda Radar
Tanulmany az atjatszo allomas 4 km-es korzeteben a gyerekeknel
csokkent kepessegeket, teheneken kromoszoma elvaltozasokat, a
fenyofaknal a novekedes lassulasat, mas novenyekben
kromoszoma-elvaltozasokat eszleltek. Lengyelorszagban 1988-ban es
1996-ban azt kozoltek, hogy az 1971 es 1985 kozott az elektromagneses
ternek kitett  karbantartok tobbfele rosszindulatu daganatos betegseg
iranti kockazata megnott. Az EPA egy 1990 evi tanulmanyanak az elso,
nem kozolt, de kiszivargott valtozata az igen alacsony  frekvenciaju
magneses ter emberi rakkelto hatasat valoszinusitette, a vegso alakbol
,politikai erzekenyseg" miatt ez kimaradt. Visszaterve a brit varosra:
Az Orange hosszu nyilatkozatot adott kozre, amely szerint nincs
bizonyitek a terek egeszsegkarosito hatasara. Mindig a National
Radiological Protection Board (Nemzeti Radiologiai Vedelmi Testulet)
radiohalozati hatarertekeire hivatkoznak, ,ezeket igen komolyan
betartjak", stb, mereseket fognak vegezni az iskolaban es a
jatszoteren, stb. Merik a hosugarzast, a fajlagos energiafelvetelt
(Specific Energy Absorption Rate). Ennek megengedett felso hatara 10
W/testtomeg-kg, mig az EA-ban sokkal alacsonyabb: 1,6 W/kg. Az
eloirasok orszagonkent kulonboznek es valtoznak. Uj Zelandon pl.
megtiltottak az atjatszok iskolak kozeleben valo telepiteset.
Glastonburyhoz hasonlo mozgalom kezdodott Manchesterben, ahol
ugyancsak az Orange ceg hosszulejaratu szerzodest kotott egy antenna
epitesere a Szent Margit Egyhaz iskolajanak a tetejen. Ez ,megengedett
fejlesztes"-nek minosul es ennek alapjan eros nyomast gyakorolnak  a
helyi hatosagra. A  New York School of Public Health dekanja mondotta:
,Nezetem szerint teljesen felelotlen cselekedet olyan hely kozeleben
telepiteni atjatszo antennat, ahol gyerekek jelentos idot toltenek.
Nem allitom hogy ketsegtelen ezen terhelesek es a gyerekkori rak
kozotti osszefugges, de a bizonyitekokat sokatmondonak latom." Pi

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